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Management at Internet Brands must be drinking on the job again.

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Just in case you're looking for a final reason to dump vBulletin Cloud on the curb:

"Effective November 4, 2025, vBulletin will be raising renewal cost of the following vBulletin Cloud plans:

Bronze Monthly (renewal cost increased to USD 24.95)
Silver Monthly (renewal cost increased to USD 49.95)
Gold Monthly (renewal cost increased to USD 94.95)
Bronze Yearly (renewal cost increased to USD 224.95)
Silver Yearly (renewal cost increased to USD 449.95)
Gold Yearly (renewal cost increased to USD 899.95)"


What they're offering isn't worth $50/month to me. Obviously I'll keep my self-hosted licenses just because, but it's been real, vBulletin Cloud.
 
With the cloud site gone, I was tinkering with the last vB license I purchased (6.1.5, at the last update). Looks like they managed to get a probably/maybe/mostly functional PWA going. 5 years too late, but better late than never I guess. Has this been in self-hosted for a while and I just didn't notice??


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I was trying to leverage the nostalgia of vBulletin for the forum (that was its overall vibe), but I was mainly in denial. After using vB for many years, it was tough to admit that the software has simply become an overly-complicated mess. It forces you to take the hardest route to achieve an obviously outdated aesthetic.

Even Gemini hates it at this point: "vBulletin is no longer the market leader for new community projects. It is primarily sustained by its existing, massive user base. For a new venture seeking modern features, high performance, and a vibrant developer community, XenForo or Discourse are generally considered superior choices."
 
I was trying to leverage the nostalgia of vBulletin for the forum (that was its overall vibe), but I was mainly in denial. After using vB for many years, it was tough to admit that the software has simply become an overly-complicated mess. It forces you to take the hardest route to achieve an obviously outdated aesthetic.

Even Gemini hates it at this point: "vBulletin is no longer the market leader for new community projects. It is primarily sustained by its existing, massive user base. For a new venture seeking modern features, high performance, and a vibrant developer community, XenForo or Discourse are generally considered superior choices."
When vB4 came out and they did the whole CMS that is when they started to fall. Jelsoft Enterpises sold vBulletin to Internet Brands and Kier (the lead dev) took off during the vB4 fiasco and went and made XenForo, then Internet brands tried to sue kier for "stealing code." Xenforo won the lawsuit by the way, shocker... vB4 is when it had the big shift.

I'm sorry and don't take it personal, but vbulletin died at vB4, vB 3.8 was the last good software update in my opinion.
 
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